Of course when I hang out with gamers we talk about game. And there are some things I really need to say about V:TM.
Tremere is gay. Ventrue is gay. Toreador is gay. Ravnos is gay. Giovanni is just this side of being gay. Oh I know I know, all the clans have cool disciplines, and any character can end up being a badass. But the basic concepts for these clans are gay. Especially Toreador, I mean really, how gay can you get. I know someone is going to reply (if anyone is still reading my posts) how such&such clan on my list of Gay is in fact *not* gay, and then tell me why. But it won't work!! They're gay!! When I was first creating a character, like, the first time ever, and there was the list of clans to choose from, I was like "shit, they're all gay." (I'm talkin Cam clans only, because those were my choices.) Well obviously not *all* gay, but those were the clans that most other people in the one game were playin, and I said screw that because, well, THEY'RE GAY. I know I should really discuss how exactly they are gay, and I just might. But it's really late and I should sleep now, but I couldn't sleep before declaring to the world how GAY those clans are. THEY ARE REALLY REALLY GAY.

sorry if your char is in a gay clan, not my fault.